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9 The map locations of areas etc. and their canonical and non-canonical names |
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10 should always be accurate. Of course the data may sometimes be out of date, |
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11 new locations are not always added instantly (see also <a href="#1">this item |
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| 2622 | 16 However, the information about authors / contributors of areas, their addition |
| 2676 | 17 dates, and other anecdotal data may be less accurate, mostly for the "older" |
| 18 areas. Anything after 2005 or so should be pretty accurate, but data for | |
| 19 earlier less so. | |
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| 21 Much of the information originates from old newsposts made by wizards, other | |
| 2622 | 22 such notes, file modification timestamps of code, <a href="#2">interviews with |
| 23 wizards and players, and multitude of other sources</a>. | |
| 24 Inaccuracies with such "folklore" type information are inevitable. | |
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| 27 <p> | |
| 2676 | 28 Many of the earlier addition dates may actually be for the big "1996 conversion" or |
| 2759 | 29 somewhat after that, while those locations may have actually existed before the stated date. |
| 2622 | 30 They may also be for further recodes or changes, if earlier dates have not been found |
| 31 (or confirmed by some means). | |
| 32 I have attempted to record the earliest "known" date when the area has almost certainly | |
| 33 been in the game, though for the previously stated reasons these may not be very accurate. | |
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37 Additionally methods of "best estimation", deduction, guesswork, magical |
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38 thinking and time travel may have been employed to obtain dates |
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39 and information when more accurate sources are unavailable. |
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42 <b>Caveat Emptor.</b> |
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| 591 | 48 <item id="1"> |
| 2218 | 49 <question>Why isn't location X marked in the maps?</question> |
| 591 | 50 <answer> |
| 51 | |
| 52 <ul> | |
| 2218 | 53 <li><b>We don't know about the area.</b><br /> |
| 54 If something is missing, then nobody involved in the mapping project has | |
| 55 noticed it yet and nobody has bothered to report it. Typically | |
| 56 I (Ggr) tend to check for added areas every once a while, but sometimes | |
| 57 it may take days or weeks if I forget about it. | |
| 1558 | 58 </li> |
| 591 | 59 |
| 2218 | 60 <li><b>The location is not "static".</b><br /> |
| 61 If the location moves, e.g. it is an roaming NPC or area entrance that | |
| 62 is not static, it is technically impossible to include it in the maps. | |
| 1558 | 63 </li> |
| 2218 | 64 |
| 65 <li><b>The location is "hidden".</b><br /> | |
| 66 This applies only for the miscellaneous / city / area maps. Some locations | |
| 67 in area overworld maps etc, while possibly well-known among seasoned players, | |
| 68 are not supposed to be public knowledge by design. As such, they are not | |
| 69 included. | |
| 1558 | 70 </li> |
| 2218 | 71 |
| 591 | 72 </ul> |
| 73 | |
| 74 <b>NOTICE!</b> Under no circumstances locations will be left out due to | |
| 75 intimidation, threats or blackmail from players wishing to hide knowledge | |
| 76 of some area. <i>If any such notes or threats are received, they may be posted | |
| 77 publicly on this website.</i> | |
| 78 </answer> | |
| 79 </item> | |
| 80 | |
| 81 <!-- ========================================================================== --> | |
| 82 <item id="2"> | |
| 83 <question>Who are behind the "PupuMaps" project?</question> | |
| 84 <answer> | |
| 85 The PupuMaps BatMUD mapping and data maintenance project | |
| 86 is mainly headed by <b>Ggr</b>, who developed the Pupunen "maputils" | |
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87 software package for this purpose. However, during the history of the project, there |
| 591 | 88 have been numerous contributors donating their time and knowledge ... |
| 89 | |
| 90 <ul> | |
| 91 <li><b>Ooga</b> - Did the original mapping of new continents, providing raw | |
| 92 mapdata and some locations. His work was invaluable in the early days of | |
| 2163 | 93 the project. |
| 1558 | 94 </li> |
| 2518 | 95 <li><b>Jeskko</b> - Did his own <a href="http://jeskko.pupunen.net/gmap2/">Google Maps-style |
| 591 | 96 implementation</a>, which has become rather popular. Worked with BatMUD staff |
| 637 | 97 to assist development of Batclient's map feature (which was based on his |
| 591 | 98 map style). Has also helped with Laenor and Lucentium re-mapping, general project |
| 99 assistance, various locations, and provides pupunen.net hosting. | |
| 1558 | 100 </li> |
| 591 | 101 <li><b>Malacoda</b> - Loaned her ship for re-mapping of Lucentium and Laenor.</li> |
| 102 <li><b>Moonlord</b>'s website - Lots of area coder information.</li> | |
| 103 <li><b>Nuane</b> - More area coder information.</li> | |
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104 <li>The wizard plaque - Bits and piece of information about authors current and past.</li> |
| 591 | 105 <li><b>Dryad</b>'s archived <a |
| 2531 | 106 oldhref="http://www.maroon.com/bat/logs/1996_conversion.asp" |
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107 href="http://web.archive.org/web/20090108120439/https://www.maroon.com/bat/logs/1996_conversion.asp" |
| 2531 | 108 >1996 BatMUD conversion notes</a> - Coder and addition date information.</li> |
| 591 | 109 <li>BatMUD newsposts were also searched through for area addition dates and coder info.</li> |
| 886 | 110 <li><b>Durand</b> made the HCBat raw mapdata available and has helped on |
| 111 other occasions.</li> | |
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112 <li><b>Osku</b> assisted with HCBat location data updates.</li> |
| 591 | 113 <li>And numerous other contributors have reported locations or knowledge about them, etc.</li> |
| 114 </ul> | |
| 115 | |
| 116 Please also see the next FAQ item concerning the history of the project. | |
| 117 </answer> | |
| 118 </item> | |
| 119 | |
| 120 <!-- ========================================================================== --> | |
| 121 <item id="3"> | |
| 1406 | 122 <question>What is the relationship between Ggr's, Jeskko's, Batclient's maps?</question> |
| 591 | 123 <answer> |
| 2469 | 124 Currently, both two major mapsites (this and Jeskko's) and Batclient map are based |
| 125 on the same data, centrally managed and known as the "PupuMaps" data. | |
| 126 The main differences come from representation and update frequency - | |
| 127 this site being the "authorative" source with the most up to date data. | |
| 128 Batclient locations are nowadays synchronized daily from PupuMaps main data, | |
| 129 but actual map "tile" data only occasionally. | |
| 130 Jeskko's map is synchronized on random occasions. | |
| 627 | 131 </answer> |
| 132 </item> | |
| 133 | |
| 134 <!-- ========================================================================== --> | |
| 135 <item id="4"> | |
| 136 <question>What's the history of this project?</question> | |
| 137 <answer> | |
| 636 | 138 A simplified timeline of PupuMaps project and various more or less related events: |
| 591 | 139 |
| 140 <ul> | |
| 141 <li><b> 2001 - 2006</b> - Tumi/Twomi maintains a popular site with an | |
| 627 | 142 colourized HTML map of BatMUD world and other BatMUD related tools. |
| 1558 | 143 </li> |
| 591 | 144 |
| 145 <li><b>Early 2006</b> - Ggr starts developing first piece of maputils, to | |
| 146 make an improved version of the BatCity map. mkbcmap is born and maputils | |
| 147 code is imported into Subversion repository in April 27th. The map is | |
| 148 eventually featured on bat.org website and Durand awards Ggr two | |
| 149 taskpoints for it. | |
| 1558 | 150 </li> |
| 636 | 151 |
| 2210 | 152 <li><b>09 May 2006</b> - |
| 153 <news group="inform" id="32659">B.A.T. ry announces plans</news> to produce a | |
| 636 | 154 BatMUD specific game client, in co-operation with Mythicscape, |
| 637 | 155 later to be called simply "Batclient". |
| 1558 | 156 </li> |
| 636 | 157 |
| 591 | 158 |
| 159 <li><b>Nov 2006</b> - Twomi does the "WELL FOLKS" routine and retires with | |
| 160 some noise, taking his map and other projects, like the reinc-simulator, | |
| 2311 | 161 offline. Much whining and gnashing of teeth ensues. |
| 1558 | 162 </li> |
| 591 | 163 |
| 164 <li><b>Nov 2006</b> - Almost immediately, several replacement maps are | |
| 165 created, including one by Jeskko. Some people resort to using archived | |
| 166 copies of Twomi's old map, from Google cache etc. | |
| 1558 | 167 </li> |
| 591 | 168 |
| 2210 | 169 <li><b>7 Dec 2006</b> - Old BatWorld sinks and |
| 170 <news id="36006" group="inform">Age of Exiles starts</news>, | |
| 171 players find themselves on shores of | |
| 591 | 172 continent of Laenor. During the other whining and gnashing of teeth, |
| 173 archwizards inform that their immediate plans do not include making | |
| 174 continent mapdata public, thus creating the need for player-led mapping. | |
| 1558 | 175 </li> |
| 591 | 176 |
| 177 <li><b>8 Dec 2006</b> - Ggr creates first version of mkmap utility to stitch | |
| 178 together map pieces from logfiles mapped via walking around. Ggr and Jeskko | |
| 179 start mapping Laenor. Ooga starts his own mapping effort, which ultimately | |
| 180 progresses much faster. | |
| 1558 | 181 </li> |
| 591 | 182 |
| 1558 | 183 <li><b>9 Dec 2006</b> - Ooga publishes the first map of Laenor.</li> |
| 591 | 184 |
| 185 <li><b>12 Dec 2006</b> - Ooga finishes mapping Rothikgen and Lucentium, though | |
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187 (this remains to be the case for a rather long time). Several utilities are developed by Ggr, |
| 591 | 188 the first results of Pupunen mapping project are published. |
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189 Lots of locations are added during the next two weeks (to the maps and few in the game itself, as not |
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190 all areas were immediately added back in game.) |
| 1558 | 191 </li> |
| 591 | 192 |
| 193 <li><b>15 Dec 2006</b> - Ooga finishes mapping Desolathya and | |
| 194 Furnachia. | |
| 1558 | 195 </li> |
| 591 | 196 |
| 630 | 197 <li><b>15-16 Dec 2006</b> - Jeskko publishes first version of his <a |
| 2518 | 198 href="http://jeskko.pupunen.net/gmap2/">Google Maps</a>-style |
| 628 | 199 continent map, based on PupuMaps data. |
| 1558 | 200 </li> |
| 628 | 201 |
| 591 | 202 <li><b>17 Dec 2006</b> - Ggr adds PNG image versions of maps to his site. |
| 1558 | 203 </li> |
| 591 | 204 |
| 2210 | 205 <li><b>28 Dec 2006</b> - <news id="36550" group="inform">Batclient v1.00 is released</news>. |
| 1558 | 206 </li> |
| 636 | 207 |
| 591 | 208 <li><b>22 May 2007</b> - Ggr and Jeskko re-map Lucentium, the |
| 209 artifacts and bugs left from Ooga's original mapping are fixed. | |
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210 Additionally they do a quick re-mapping of Laenor, which gets finished on 25th of May. |
| 1558 | 211 </li> |
| 591 | 212 |
| 628 | 213 |
| 2210 | 214 <li><b>18 Jun 2007</b> - <news id="39132" group="bs">PupuMaps metadata format |
| 215 is extended</news> to support coder, SS and freeform information. Jeskko's | |
| 627 | 216 map implementation supports it one day later. |
| 1558 | 217 </li> |
| 627 | 218 |
| 2210 | 219 <li><b>01 Jul 2007</b> - <news id="39269" group="inform">Batclient v1.40 released</news>, |
| 220 with the new realm map functionality, based on PupuMaps location data. Development | |
| 636 | 221 of the feature occured partially in collaboration with Jeskko. |
| 1558 | 222 </li> |
| 636 | 223 |
| 627 | 224 <li><b>13 Jul 2007</b> - Metadata gets extended again, |
| 2210 | 225 <news id="39392" group="general">adding support</news> for location timestamps, enabling |
| 226 the creation of <a href="latest.php">latest locations</a> list feature. | |
| 1558 | 227 </li> |
| 627 | 228 |
| 631 | 229 <li><b>21-22 Dec 2007</b> - The official raw ASCII mapdata for Age of Exiles |
| 1558 | 230 continents gets published officially at last.<br /> |
| 231 <small> | |
| 631 | 232 Gore tells Jeskko, Ooga and you 'unless I get some heavy objections tomorrow, I will arrange to make the |
| 233 rawdata available to ease up map updates.' (Fri Dec 21 01:04:11 2007)<br /> | |
| 234 Ooga tells Gore, Jeskko and you 'excellent'<br /> | |
| 235 Jeskko tells Gore, Ooga and you 'cool. Amarth might have some already | |
| 236 working scripts for generating the raw files if you ask him nicely. :)'<br /> | |
| 237 Gore tells Ooga, Jeskko and you 'I doubt it, the batclient mapdata seems to | |
| 238 be last updated October 14th :)'<br /> | |
| 239 </small> | |
| 1558 | 240 </li> |
| 631 | 241 |
| 2210 | 242 <li><b>23 Feb 2008</b> - Nosunrise |
| 243 <news id="42168" group="general">announces the first early beta</news> of his "<a | |
| 2327 | 244 href="https://batshoppe.dy.fi/reincsim2/">ReincSim 2</a>", replacement for |
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245 Twomi's famous (and by then long absent) reincarnation simulator. |
| 1558 | 246 </li> |
| 627 | 247 |
| 248 <li><b>4 May 2008</b> - Twomi finally <a | |
| 249 href="http://tuminoid.blogspot.com/2008/05/batmud-tools-by-tumi-sources-released.html">releases</a> | |
| 250 the <a href="http://code.google.com/p/batmudtoolsbytumi/">sources and data</a> for his tools | |
| 2210 | 251 (now somewhat obsolete, though.) [<news id="42961" group="general">BatMUD news post announcement</news>] |
| 1558 | 252 </li> |
| 627 | 253 |
| 2210 | 254 <li><b>20 Jun 2008</b> - <a href="quests.php">Quest information</a> page is added |
| 255 and <news id="43414" group="general">announced</news>, | |
| 628 | 256 generated from the recently added LQ/AQ information in location database. |
| 1558 | 257 </li> |
| 760 | 258 |
| 888 | 259 <li><b>13 Mar 2009</b> - A more up-to-date HCBat map is introduced, thanks |
| 1558 | 260 to Durand for making the raw mapdata available.</li> |
| 886 | 261 |
| 760 | 262 <li><b>06 Apr 2009</b> - OpenSearch support is added and |
| 2210 | 263 <news id="46401" group="general">announced</news>, |
| 264 along with improved map of <a href="arelium.html">Arelium</a> (other citymaps got certain | |
| 760 | 265 improvements for the same price, too.) |
| 1558 | 266 </li> |
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| 2210 | 270 website feature <news id="47382" group="inform">is announced</news>. |
| 271 Originally a "quick concept hack" by Ggr a | |
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274 'atlas' database. |
| 1558 | 275 </li> |
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| 2210 | 277 <li><b>19 Sep 2009</b> - After a lengthy testing period on a separate test game server, |
| 278 <news id="47332" group="inform">BatMUD moves to use 64-bit version of the MUD driver</news>. | |
| 279 Few next weeks are plaqued by semi-frequent crashes due to some remaining | |
| 280 <news id="47480" group="inform">driver</news> | |
| 281 <news id="47526" group="inform">bugs</news>, but they are promptly | |
| 282 <news id="47573" group="inform">addressed</news> by Favorit along with other wizards. | |
| 1558 | 283 </li> |
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| 918 | 285 <li><b>14 Apr 2010</b> - BatMUD 20 years anniversary. |
| 1558 | 286 </li> |
| 918 | 287 |
| 288 <li><b>17 Apr 2010</b> - <a | |
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289 href="https://www.bat.org/node/104">BatMUD 20yr Anniversary Gala</a> |
| 918 | 290 at Kaivohuone, Helsinki. BatMudders from all around the world gather |
| 291 for drunken fun etc. The amount of attendees is diminished by unexpected | |
| 292 volcano eruption of Eyjafjallakokull in Iceland, that causes disruption and | |
| 293 closing of almost whole north-European airspace. | |
| 1558 | 294 </li> |
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297 smaller improvements. |
| 1558 | 298 </li> |
| 1388 | 299 |
| 300 <li><b>31 Jan 2012</b> - Ggr immorts, but continues the map data | |
| 301 maintenance as before for the foreseeable future, | |
| 302 despite ascending to higher realms. | |
| 1558 | 303 </li> |
| 1406 | 304 |
| 305 <li><b>09 Sep 2012</b> - Jeskko ascends to immortality as well. | |
| 1558 | 306 </li> |
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| 1491 | 309 (or at least brought to state that it is usable and mostly on feature |
| 310 parity with the old version), and replaces the old BatMUD GMaps hack. | |
| 1558 | 311 </li> |
| 312 | |
| 1765 | 313 <li><b>03 Mar 2015</b> - Various minor updates made to the PupuMaps |
| 1558 | 314 pages, and maputils tools revamped. HTML maps switched to HTML5 and |
| 315 given some JavaScript-based multimedia goodness. | |
| 316 </li> | |
| 1636 | 317 |
| 1698 | 318 |
| 2328 | 319 <li><b>14 Apr 2015</b> - BatMUD's 25th anniversary. |
| 1698 | 320 </li> |
| 321 | |
| 1765 | 322 <li><b>27 Apr 2016</b> - The Pupunen BatMUD Maps Project reaches |
| 1636 | 323 the mature age of <b>10 years</b>! Hooray! |
| 324 </li> | |
| 1765 | 325 |
| 326 <li><b>19 Oct 2017</b> - HC-Bat map gets updated, after a 5+ year gap | |
| 327 in updates. Additionally few other improvements to the map site and maps | |
| 328 themselves were made. | |
| 329 </li> | |
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| 332 <news group="general" id="57755">Map search feature is re-introduced.</news> | |
| 333 Originally a feature on Jeskko's GMap pages, it was removed during the GMapsNG | |
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| 2128 | 336 |
| 337 <li><b>17 Sep 2019</b> - Map search gains "show nearest locations" feature. | |
| 338 </li> | |
| 2210 | 339 |
| 340 <li><b>11.-13. Oct 2019</b> - Various technical and usability improvements made to | |
| 341 the "city"-type maps (e.g. map of <a href="arelium.html">Arelium</a> and other major cities, and certain maps of areas). | |
| 342 Also the information content has been improved, adding details that were missing, and certain | |
| 343 errors fixed. | |
| 344 <news group="general" id="58750">[1]</news> | |
| 345 <news group="general" id="58752">[2]</news> | |
| 346 </li> | |
| 2284 | 347 |
| 348 <li><b>02 Apr 2020</b> - IPv6 support enabled in map search WebSockets server, so | |
| 349 now IPv6 users can connect directly to it. (Previously this was not possible due to | |
| 350 old/broken libwebsockets version.) | |
| 351 </li> | |
| 2328 | 352 |
| 353 <li><b>14 Apr 2020</b> - BatMUD's 30th anniversary. Due to the COVID-19 situation, | |
| 354 the planned celebratory event is cancelled / postponed. | |
| 355 </li> | |
| 356 | |
| 357 <li><b>Feb 2021</b> - Pupunen.net server's hard drive fails and the site becomes | |
| 358 unavailable for almost two months. This includes the GMapNG BatMUD world map and | |
| 359 all the Mercurial code repositories stored there. <news group="general" id="59302">Fortunately, most of | |
| 2481 | 360 the relevant data is also stored elsewhere.</news> The various Mercurial repositories |
| 361 previously hosted on Pupunen.net are moved to <a href="https://tnsp.org/hg/batmud/">tnsp.org</a>. | |
| 2328 | 362 </li> |
| 363 | |
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| 2328 | 365 is held, featuring arena fights with commentary, greetings videos from players and |
| 366 talks from wizards. | |
| 367 </li> | |
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| 2328 | 370 </li> |
| 2604 | 371 |
| 372 <li>... steady, though irregular location data updates continue ...</li> | |
| 373 | |
| 2776 | 374 <li><b>Jan 2024</b> - Once again, a number of technical and usability improvements made to |
| 375 the "city"-type maps (e.g. map of <a href="arelium.html">Arelium</a> etc. and | |
| 376 the HTML/JS world maps. | |
| 2604 | 377 </li> |
| 378 | |
| 2776 | 379 <li><b>Feb - Mar 2024</b> - A somewhat notable amount of "research" performed |
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| 2604 | 382 </li> |
| 2651 | 383 |
| 384 <li><b>18 Feb 2024</b> - HCBat map gets major updates, mainly thanks to | |
| 385 inspiration from <b>Broetchen</b> and <b>Acentaja</b>. | |
| 386 Ggr gets granted s a wizchar in HCBat by <b>Zin</b> to help with the updating. | |
| 387 </li> | |
| 591 | 388 </ul> |
| 636 | 389 |
| 390 More to come... | |
| 591 | 391 </answer> |
| 392 </item> | |
| 393 | |
| 394 <!-- ========================================================================== --> | |
| 629 | 395 <item id="5"> |
| 396 <question>Is the location / map data available?</question> | |
| 397 <answer> | |
| 630 | 398 <b>Yes. PupuMaps location data is freely available to anyone who wishes to use |
| 1255 | 399 it</b>. Naturally some kind of acknowledgement would be preferred, if you use it in your |
| 400 own projects. | |
| 629 | 401 |
| 402 <p> | |
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403 Currently this data is available through the Mercurial repository of |
| 2322 | 404 <a href="https://tnsp.org/hg/batmud/maputils/file/tip/world">Ggr's MapUtils</a>. |
| 629 | 405 You may also be interested in the utilities themselves |
| 2322 | 406 <a href="https://tnsp.org/hg/batmud/maputils/">https://tnsp.org/hg/batmud/maputils/</a> |
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| 629 | 409 </p> |
| 410 | |
| 411 <p> | |
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| 1902 | 414 </p> |
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422 </ul> |
| 629 | 423 </answer> |
| 424 </item> | |
| 425 | |
| 426 <!-- ========================================================================== --> | |
| 591 | 427 <!-- |
| 428 <item id="4"> | |
| 429 <question></question> | |
| 430 <answer> | |
| 431 </answer> | |
| 432 </item> | |
| 433 --> | |
| 434 | |
| 435 </faq> |